Working with old Joe on the weekends Joe was up there, actually was a part of the original painting of the (now gone) Fox Theatre. Joe would get these termite jobs. The termite guys would tear up and re-stucco the sides of houses. Then, we'd show up and mix the colors to a close match and repaint those areas. So Joe starts teaching me how to mix colors and I got so good at it the owners would be amazed and thrilled to not have to repainted the whole house. In adulthood I would go on to sell these services to the BofA. And the bank United California who went on to become First interstate.